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Jaderr, Its nice to see you've seen some improvement.

It doesn't surprise me that testosterone is helping, but I do think its more likely that it's being absorbed into the bloodstream and raising blood levels rather than acting on a local level.

Eventually, after taking testosterone for a while, you would stop producing your own as your body tries to compensate for the higher levels. Shrinking of testicles, gynecomastia (breast growth in men) and liver damage are possible side effect, but only with high doses over a prolonged period of time.

Personally, if it worked, I'd still try it, I'm desperate enough.

I have wondered whether those of us that started having ejaculatory anhedonia in our teens was due to, our testosterone levels falling after puberty and our 'normal' level isn't high enough even though its in the 'normal range'.

I'm intrigued to see whether you continue to improve. There are plenty of sites online that sell either kits or services to measure blood testosterone levels. Have you considered periodically measuring your T-levels while you're experimenting with it?

Your right i dotn think it makes a difference where you apply it but i dont know i will have to try it and see if it makes a difference where it is applied. might be best to start with a saller dosage when useing the cream to make sure no side effects occur. it has to be better then in pill form because when it goes through the intestines you dont get the full amount of testosterone in the blood. I wlil be getting my cream next week so I will let you all know how it works. Jaderr you still seeing success?

yes ive absolute sure that it improves orgasms because i just dont feel a thing now that ive stoped.. the problem is i dont want to apply it all the time, ut its a good path to the cure perhaps...

humm forum still dead , it sux...

Hey Jaderr so is there some sort of directions for how much to use per day? Have you tried applying it in different areas besides the genital area? Hey if you have aim you can reach me same name if you want to chat. This site sucks now and is a pain its slow. I have no clue why they had to change things it was fine how it was.

the only danger of testosterone is that with a long time use, u gonna stop producing natural t and ur testicles gonna get smaller and smaller, but perhaps cream and skin use doesnt have that probelm

Well take it once a week. If you use in moderation I dont think you would naturally start not making t. I think that is when people use it in excess. Maybe if you just take it 2 times a week or something. Obviously we must not be making enough naturally to begin with if we have such loss of libido and sexual functioning. I thikn the key is to watch how much is applied and maybe evne go a little less then u are directed to take. i am sure if yoru testicles shrink it would be reversible once you got off the T. The cream is much more effective since 80 percent of the T is absorbed into your blood when using cream. Only 20 percent is absorbed into the blood stream when taking pills of T. Somehow when it goes into the stomach and the liver breaks it down not all of it enters the blood. I guess its not use to breaking down hormones so it dont do a perfect job. That is why you see such good results. I was taking a Testosterone supplement in pill form but it isnt as effective and i prob should take how the directions say to take it i was not taking enough. but i will have the cream soon so will see how that goes. Jaderr even if you took it once in a while at least you know for some you are going to get good orgasms. It is a huge step in the right direction. I am excited to get my cream.

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to make it clear I'm still around and still totally on board in solving this for all of us! I think I mentioned in my last post that I might be away for a while - I've had deadlines coming at me from all angles but finally have my life back again now.

Firstly, I posted on the other forum on Lost Mojo's site, but in case no one sees it, I'm trying to speak to Needhelp, so can you if you're reading this or can someone else contact him if anyone speaks to him off this forum and ask him to email me as I don't have his email address? Mine is ( Email Addresses are not allowed in posts ,please put them in your profile )
Thanks Second thing - I guess you all want an update. Well the relaxation thing has still made a major difference, but I've not fully tested it yet due to busyness (and complete exhaustion as a result). I don't think I'm 100%, it's levelled out about 7/8 out of ten. One of the main differences is I can really feel the tension build-up right at the start of the orgasm - I suppose before the tension was already there so there was nothing to build up. It's still completely automatic though to react with squeezing the PC muscle. I mentioned before I'd seen you could get specialist physio to help the body (I mean specifically this muscle, not a general relaxation) learn to relax - did anyone try this? I really think it could be the way forward. I saw briefly some stats someone posted, and I think this line of argument fits with those who have a history of rushed masturbation etc, as I'm pretty sure I developed the habit of squeezing to bring on a quicker orgasm. And as I said, I'm still struggling to relax the muscles, and I don't know how it is for men, but I wonder if those who say that relaxing the PC muscles hasn't helped, this may not rule it oput as a cause - could it be that it just needs more work on it and it's not the ideal technique to unlearn it, so the help of a trained physio might work? Last time I looked, no-one had tried this treatment option.

Also, can anyone fill me in on the latest here? I've been so busy that a quick fill in would be great as I could really use the rest and don't think I could take in all the posts if I read through them right now. Whatever happened to Orange Peel and his PC relaxation? Thanks guys.

Actually, the first time that I actively tried relaxing the muscle resulted in the first orgasm I've had in years (it hasn't quite worked since, though). I've been doing it whenever I can think about it, and it has helped me some.
I'm new to this site and haven't lurked moar like I should have, so I can't give you the Cliff's Notes on everything; there is a certain ejaculatoryanhedonia.com/node that people here have started.

That's exactly it...my first time with this technique was a 10/10, then it's gone down to a 7/8, but I just haven't had the time to 'run tests'!! Maybe will start again now! I don't know if I'm over relaxing it (which I also feel may be contradictory to how it should naturally be) or if I've not relaxed it enough, but I feel while it's conscious it's not ever going to be exactly like it used to be when it just happened naturally.

This article talks about pelvic floor dysfunction icadvice.com/node/26 . I wonder if we are on the lesser extreme of this scale, and would be interested if anyone had these symptoms, such as weak urine stream/difficulty urinating? It's basically saying that too tight pelvic floor muscles are kind of the opposite of what causes incontinence symptoms and has lots of treatment options.

Lol one day back and I'm spamming the board again! But it's not spam...I promise! I think some of the people here have also been on this forum. ehealthforum.com/health/topic86215_1220.html and I may have posted this before but I've just been reading through page 62 and it's very relevant.

How many people here also have premature ejaculation? Cos I think this could be the key for those cases. One guy said he relaxes his pelvic floor muscles by pushing out his abs, and he thinks his have become tense from always sucking his abs in. I just wondered if this has any help to anyone and maybe there are more techniques to better achieve relaxation of the pc muscle.

Double posting? For shame.
Okay -- when you're talking about a 7/8 intensity, is that a seven out of eight, or a seven-eighths? Because what I'm experiencing now is definitely a seven-eighths. Occasionally, it'll spike to a three out of ten, but that initial one that I mentioned was a full ten.
And holy crap. I just read that article, and it's the first thing I've seen that has ever mentioned my not-being-able-to-completely-evacuate-all-urineability thing that I've had as far back as I can remember. I thought it was normal for a while. I don't, however, have any other symptoms mentioned.

Wow so the symptoms DO fit with you!!! This is exciting - I really think we're on to something! I don't think we have it in the full blown condition or more of us would have been diagnosed or be complaining of the other symptoms, but I did wonder if we might have signs of some of them that we've dismissed as normal but that actually fit. For example, last yr I had a lot of urinary infections and lower back pain despite the fact that they could find nothing wrong, and they did lots of tests because I have a mild kidney problem so they checked it out thoroughly and found nothing. I also wonder, if this is the case, if it could develop to full pelvic floor dysfunction so may be a good warning sign to do something about it now for those of us this could apply to.

The 7 out of ten is exactly that. I was up to about 3 or 4 from supplements but that was mostly around the tingly feeling etc rather than orgasm itself. Now it's still lacking in the actual orgasm moment a bit, but I feel release afterwards and sleepy again rather than just pure frustration, so that's one of the major benefits, but the spasms aren't back as they were still. And my scale out of ten is with ten referring to a 'normal' pre-this problem orgasm, I'm not saying that this is pretty average where ten could be mindblowing, but that this is still sub-pretty average.

To go down the physio route, I think it was myofacial massage or some similar term, but I'm saying that by memory, but you need a physio trained inj treating pelvic floor dysfunction.

This thread has been locked and is continued under a new thread titled "Ejaculation without orgasm: Ejaculatory Anhedonia", below is a link to the continuation of this discussion topic: www.hisandherhealth.com/sexual-health-bu...tory-anhedonia#39385

The reason for this thread change is because the thread is well over 2,000 replies and takes a little while to load, this should speed things up considerably.

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